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John Walker challenges John Moore


John S. Walker

Dear Professor Moore,

The statements below are from the transcript of a documentary that seeks to create dialogue on AIDS where there is none. I wonder how you would respond to these statements:

KARY MULLIS: “I mean I understand there are a lot of people if you ask them about HIV causing AIDS as being a fact, they’ll say, of course, it’s indisputable. And the very fact that they will say it’s indisputable might lead to you question their ability to understand scientific method. People that think any scientific fact is indisputable don’t understand about scientific facts.”

MARK WAINBERG: “As far as I’m concerned, and I hope this view is adequately represented, those who attempt to dispel the notion that HIV is the cause of AID are perpetrators of death. And I would very much for one like to see the Constitution of the United States and similar countries have some means in place that we can charge people who are responsible for endangering public health with charges of endangerment and bring them up on trial. I think that people like Peter Duesberg belong in jail.”

PETER DUESBERG: “We don’t say Toyotas and Mercedes shouldn’t be sold here because we want to sell General Motors. But when it comes to science, we act in America like the Pope acts in Rome. There is only one truth and only one direction to march in.

RODNEY RICHARDS: “One of the distinguishing features in modern science is skepticism, the spirit to challenge other people’s work, the spirit to challenge your own work. And I fear that this spirit is disappearing in particular in the case of HIV and AIDS. Anybody that speaks up against or challenges some of the entrenched paradigms or principles is not only not welcome, but they are strongly criticized to the point of being called names, bigots, homophobes, baby killers, flat earthers, holocaust deniers. Certainly this would indicate to me that the spirit of skepticism, the spirit of challenge, the spirit of scientific debate in this field is virtually completely gone.”

MARK WAINBERG: “Someone who would perpetrate the notion that HIV is not the cause of AIDS is perhaps motivated by sentiments of pure evil, that such a person may perhaps really want millions of people in Africa and elsewhere tobecome infected by this virus and go on to die of it. And, who knows, maybe there’s a hidden agenda behind the thoughts of a madman. Maybe all psychopaths everywhere have ways of getting their views across that are sometimes camouflaged in subterfuge. But I suggest to you that Peter Duesberg is probably the closest thing we have in this world to a scientific psychopath.”

ROBIN SCOVILL: “There are a lot of other scientists that raise the challenges that he raises.”

MARK WAINBERG: “And now the interview is finished. Thanks.”

Here are some concluding words, from the same documentary, from Christine Maggiore, who has been put through hell for her courageous stand; your irresponsible reference to her child’s death has surely only added to this hell, and I wonder how you would answer to such a charge. Her child died from causes that have nothing to do with your erroneous theories, and if you are a serious scientist, you will eventually apologize.
CHRISTINE MAGGIORE: “Questioning is healthy. Questioning is what leads toanswers. Science, research, investigation of any kind begins with questions. And when we restrict where those questions can go, who can ask them and under what circumstances, we’re restricting progress and knowledge. And when we’re looking for answers to a problem that is unresolved, that has caused tremendous human suffering on many levels, lives being lost, lives being forever changed, you know, people commit suicide, have abortions, break up relationships, give up careers and all kinds of things based on the idea that HIV causes AIDS, we have the right to question this. Questioning is a good thing. And we should be joining hands. There shouldn’t be this my side/your side. We should be joining hands, the, you know, so-called mainstream AIDS organizations with the so-called alternative AIDS organizations like ours, in an effort to explain the anomalies, to fill in the gaping holes in our knowledge, and to embrace what we don’t understand in order to come to some answers and solutions that can truly be of help to people.”
John S Walker, Cornell, Class of 1984

John Moore

Mr. Walker,

I agree completely with Mark Wainberg, an outstanding scientist for whom I have immense personal respect for his stand against AIDS denialists. As you’re obviously one yourself, I have nothing further to say to you, other than to note that I very much hope that Maggiore is prosecuted, convicted and punished for her conduct over the death of her daughter.
John Moore

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